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Philips DVDR70/051 Operating Instructions Manual

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  • Page 1 Dear Philips customer, Regional code Technical data Accessories Important Cleaning the discs Special functions of your DVD recorder Important information for customers in Great Britain Preparing the remote control for operation Connecting your DVD recorder to the TV set Connecting with a scart cable and 'Easy Link'...
  • Page 2 General Programming recordings with the VIDEO Plus+ Programming recordings without the VIDEO Plus+ How to change or delete a programmed recording (TIMER) 'NexTView Link' Problem solving for programmed recordings Picture settings Sound settings Language settings Additional settings Remote Control settings Disk feature menu Child lock (DVD and VCD) Activating/deactivating child lock...
  • Page 5 MONITOR : This button lets you switch between the TV receiver (internal tuner) in the DVD recorder (TV picture on the TV set) and playback on the DVD recorder. STANDBY m interrupt a programmed recording (TIMER) TV/DVD to the TV set. This lets you watch the picture from any unit connected to this scart socket (set-top box', video recorder or satellite receiver) and at the same time record from another source.
  • Page 6 If this button is pressed during recording, the DVD recorder will also switch to pause. This will only work with TV sets with the same remote control code *RC5) (e.g. Philips TV sets) TV VOLUME q : Increase TV volume...
  • Page 7 STANDBY/ON m programmed recording (TIMER) OPEN/CLOSE J RECORD : Record the current TV channel : To play a recorded disc Select previous title/search backwards Select next title/search forwards : Interrupt playback/recording S-VIDEO video recorders (programme number ' VIDEO (programme number ' left AUDIO right recorders (programme number ' Switching between the S-VIDEO and VIDEO sockets takes place automatically.
  • Page 8 4MAINS ANTENNA IN : Connection of the aerial TV OUT EXT 2 AUX-I/O set-top box, video recorder, camcorder, etc.) EXT 1 TO TV-I/O OUT S-VIDEO (Y/C) OUT VIDEO (CVBS) input (CVBS, Composite Video) OUT L AUDIO R set with audio input sockets or connection of an additional device DIGITAL AUDIO (amplifier/receiver) These symbols can light up on your DVD recorder display:...
  • Page 9 IIIIIIIIIIIIIII Disc bar: Displays the current position on the disc (disc pointer). Play/Record: Single flashing segment at the current position. Pause: Flashing segment on both sides of the current position. Stop: Illuminated segment at the current position. A satellite recording has been programmed. TIMER A recording (timer) has been programmed o(((...
  • Page 10 The disc inserted is either new or has been completely erased (no recordings). The disc is protected against recording. The maximum number of titles per disc has been reached. The maximum number of titles per disc is 48. The maximum number of chapters per title/disc has been reached. The maximum number of chapters per title is 124.
  • Page 11 Introduction Instruction manuals are usually very dry since they are technically-oriented and often poorly translated. I have therefore been employed by Philips to help you. Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Phil. I will be guiding you through the instruction manual and helping you get to know your new DVD recorder.
  • Page 12 Before this disc can be played in a DVD player, it must be finalised in the DVD recorder. Once this process is complete, no further recordings can be added. Your Philips DVD recorder is a machine for recording and playing back digital video discs with "two-way" compatibility with the universal DVD video standard. This means: •) existing DVD video discs can be played on the recorder.
  • Page 13 The following discs can be used in your DVD recorder for playback and recording: DVD+RW (Digital Versatile Disc + rewritable) DVD+R (Digital Versatile Disc + Recordable) DVD Video (Digital Versatile Disc) DVD-R (DVD-Recordable) DVD-RW (DVD-Rewritable) These discs can only be played back if the recording was made in video mode and the recording was finalised.

  • Page 14: Regional Code

    Since DVD films are not normally released in all parts of the world at the same time, all DVD players have a specific regional code. Discs can be given a regional code. If the regional codes differ between the player and the disc, playback is not possible. DVDs must be marked 'ALL' for all regions or '2' for region 2 to work in this machine.
  • Page 15 Because of the risk of eye injuries, only qualified service engineers should open the machine and carry out maintenance or repair work. Type: Semiconductor lasers InGaAlP (DVD), AlGaAs(CD) Wavelength: 660nm (DVD), 780nm (CD) Output power (outside the lens): 20mW (DVD+RW write), 0.8mW (DVD read), 0.3mW (CD read).
  • Page 16 When installing the recorder in a cupboard ensure there is a gap of approximately 2.5 cm (1 inch) around the recorder to enable air to circulate freely and prevent overheating. Make sure that air can circulate freely through the ventilation slots on the machine. The machine should be placed on a firm surface.
  • Page 17 B(Blue) are transmitted via separate channels. This reduces the interference that occurs with standard video cables. The Philips DVD recorder can play back pre-recorded DVDs and CDs. DVDs recorded using this DVD recorder can be played back on current and future DVD players.
  • Page 18 Dolby Laboratories standard for transmitting 5.1 channels. Five full-value channels are transmitted in this acoustic playback system. A further channel is used for low frequencies (effects). The loudspeakers are arranged front left, front middle, front right, rear left and rear right. This system is currently the most common system and is used in cinemas.
  • Page 19 Connecting the DVD recorder This set is fitted with an approved moulded 13 amp plug. To change the fuse in this plug or to attach a different plug, please proceed as follows: Take off the fuse cover and remove the old fuse Insert a new fuse.
  • Page 20 Open the battery compartment, insert the batteries as shown and then close the battery compartment. The remote control is now ready to use. Its range is approximately 5 to 10 meters. In the following sections, you will need the remote control for the first time. Aim the remote control at the DVD recorder and not at the TV set.
  • Page 21 Connecting the DVD recorder Your DVD recorder can exchange information with your TV set using 'Easy Link'. Your TV channels can also be transferred in the same order from your TV set to your DVD recorder using 'Easy Link'. Please see your TV's operating instructions. Have the following cables ready: an aerial cable (1, supplied), a mains cable (2, supplied), a special scart cable (3, suitable for Easylink).
  • Page 22 After the data transfer has been completed,, the following appears on the screen: ' Normally the date and time are taken from the data sent by the TV channel stored on programme P01. If th aerial signal is too weak or there is excessive interference, you should set the date and time manually: Check if the time in ' ' is correct.

  • Page 23: Important

    Connecting the DVD recorder Insert one end of the supplied aerial cable into the TV OUT socket at the back of the DVD recorder and the other end into the aerial input socket at the back of the TV set. Plug a scart cable into the scart socket EXT 1 TO TV-I/O at the back of the DVD recorder and the scart socket for the DVD recorder at the back of the TV set (see TV set operating instructions).
  • Page 24 This connecting cable, also known as the SVHS cable, is used to transmit the brightness signal (Y signal) and colour signal (C signal) separately. This mini DIN socket/plug is also called a Hosiden socket/plug. Have the following cables ready: an aerial cable (1, supplied), a mains cable (2, supplied), an S-Video(SVHS) cable (3), an audio cable (4, red/white plug).
  • Page 25 Connecting the DVD recorder Switch on the DVD recorder using STANDBY/ON m . will appear on the display. Then, read the paragraph on 'Initial installation' in 'Installing your DVD recorder'. This cable, usually with yellow Cinch connectors, is used for transmitting the Composite Video signal (FBAS, CVBS).
  • Page 26 Insert one end of the supplied mains cable into the mains socket 4MAINS at the back of the DVD recorder and the other end into the wall socket. The most important features of the DVD recorder will appear in scrolling text on the display. After the first installation is completed this function will be switched off.
  • Page 27 Connecting additional devices You can connect additional devices such as decoders, satellite receivers, camcorders, etc. to the EXT 2 AUX-I/O socket. When playback is started on this additional device the DVD recorder automatically connects the EXT 2 AUX-I/O scart socket with the EXT 1 TO TV-I/O scart socket.
  • Page 28 To copy camcorder recordings, you can use the front sockets. These sockets are located behind the flap on the left hand side. If you have a Hi8 or S-VHS(C) camcorder, connect the S-VIDEO input of the DVD recorder to the appropriate S-VHS output on the camcorder. You must also connect the audio input left AUDIO right on the DVD recorder to the audio output on the camcorder.
  • Page 29 Connecting additional devices At the back of the DVD recorder there is a digital audio output socket DIGITAL AUDIO OUT for an coaxial cable. These can be used to connect the following: Digital multi-channel sound offers the best possible sound quality. You will need a multi-channel A/V receiver or amplifier that supports at least one of the audio formats of the DVD recorder (MPEG2 and Dolby Digital).

  • Page 30: Connecting Your Dvd Recorder To The Tv Set

    After successfully connecting your DVD recorder to the TV set and other additional devices as described in the previous chapters, this chapter will show you how to start the initial installation. The DVD recorder automatically seeks out and stores all available TV channels. If you have connected additional devices such as a satellite receiver to the aerial cable, switch them on.
  • Page 31 Installing your DVD recorder Select the desired screen format position using CH- B or CH+ A . These settings will only be used if you insert a DVD that contains this information. for a 'wide-screen' (cinema format) picture with black bars at the top and bottom.

  • Page 32: Using A Satellite Receiver

    If you are connecting a satellite receiver, please read the section on 'Using a satellite receiver'. If you are connecting a decoder, you must install it as described in the next section. b If the sound is distorted on any of the stored TV channels or if there is no sound at all, the wrong TV system may have been stored for the TV channel.
  • Page 33 Installing your DVD recorder CH+ A and CH- B buttons or the number buttons Use the 0..9 on the remote control to select the TV channel for which you want to use the decoder. If necessary, use the MONITOR button to switch to the internal tuner.
  • Page 34 ' using CH- B or CH+ A and confirm with C . Select ' ' using CH- B or CH+ A and confirm with Select ' ', select the desired display using C . In ' (Frequency), (Channel), In ' ', enter the frequency or channel of the TV station using the number buttons 0..9 .
  • Page 35 Installing your DVD recorder When the automatic channel search function is activated, the TV channels are stored in a specific order. This may differ from the order in which the TV channels appear on your TV set. This function changes the order of the TV channels stored in your DVD recorder to match the order on the TV set.

  • Page 36: Adding And Clearing Tv Channels Manually

    b Chech the connectors at both ends of the scart cable. b Check your TV's operating instructions to see which scart socket is used for video signals. b If the problem persists, you won't be able to use this feature. Please read 'Adding and clearing TV channels manually'.
  • Page 37 Installing your DVD recorder ' using CH- B or CH+ A . Select ' Press C . 'Autoinstall' starts. Wait until all the TV channels have been found. This can take several minutes. When Autoinstall has finished, ' the TV screen. The date and time have been set and stored.
  • Page 38 Using CH- B or CH+ A select the TV channel that you want to delete or whose order you want to change. Confirm with C . Unwanted channels or those with poor reception can be deleted using CLEAR . Proceed at step 6 . Using CH- B or CH+ A , shift the TV channel to the desired position and press the D button.
  • Page 39 Installing your DVD recorder Select the appropriate setting using CH- B or CH+ A and confirm with OK . To end, press SYSTEM-MENU . Some TV programmes transmit an extra audio signal in stereo in addition to the normal audio signal (2-channel sound).
  • Page 40 If the display shows an incorrect time or ' SYSTEM-MENU on the remote control. The menu bar Press appears. ' symbol with D or C . Select ' ' using CH- B or CH+ A and confirm with C . Select ' ' using CH- B or CH+ A and confirm with C .
  • Page 41 On-screen information You can check or change many of the functions and settings of your DVD recorder via the system menu bar. The menu bar cannot be displayed during recording. Press SYSTEM-MENU to open and close the menu bar (main menu). Use D and C to select the relevant function.

  • Page 42: Field For Temporary Messages

    The top left corner of the menu line contains a field for temporary messages relating to the various operating modes. This information appears briefly on the screen when certain disc functions have been activated: The status field shows the current operating mode (status) of the DVD recorder and the type of disc inserted.

  • Page 43: Tuner Information Box

    On-screen information This field is located in the bottom left-hand corner of the screen. The aerial signal, the TV channel and the TV channel name for the selected programme are displayed. The TV channel is not available/the additional device is not connected or it is switched off This box appears above the tuner information box.
  • Page 44 With this DVD recorder you can play back the following systems: •) DVD Video •) (Super)Video CD Disc •) DVD+RW Disc •) DVD+R Disc •) DVD-RW (video mode, finalised) •) DVD-R •) CD-R •) CD-RW •) Audio CD •) MP3 CD You can operate the video recorder using the remote control or the buttons on the front of the DVD recorder.

  • Page 45: Playing A Dvd Video Disc

    Playback You can open and close the disc tray using the remote control. Press and hold the STOP h button on the remote control until the dialog box shows ' ' or ' Playback starts automatically. A menu may appear when a DVD is played back. If the titles and chapters are numbered, press a number button on the remote control.
  • Page 46 If the disc is write-protected or a finalised DVD+R disc, playback starts automatically. If playback does not start automatically, use the CH+ A button to select the title you want to play on the index screen. You can also use the N or O button on the front. Press the PLAY G button.
  • Page 47 Playback MP3 (MPEG1 Audio Layer-3) files are highly compressed music files. Using this technology the data volume can be compressed by a factor of 10. This means it is possible to record 10 hours of music in CD quality on a single CD-ROM. File system: ISO9660 Directory structure: maximum of 8 levels Formats: *.mp3...
  • Page 48 (Super) Video CDs may be equipped with PBC (Play Back Control). This means that special playback functions (menus) can be directly selected. The video CD must be PBC compatible (see CD case). 'PBC' is active in the default settings. Insert a (Super) Video CD. If the 'h' symbol appears in the display, start playback by pressing PLAY G .
  • Page 49 Additonal playback features If there is more than one title or chapter on a disc you can change to another title or chapter as follows. However if there are several chapters within a title, these will be selected. The title can then still be selected via the menu bar.
  • Page 50 During playback, press PAUSE 9 to stop playback and display a still picture. During a still picture press SYSTEM-MENU on the remote control. The menu bar will appear at the top of the screen. ' symbol using C or D and confirm with CH- B . Select the ' You can now use the D or C button to go forwards or backwards one frame at a time.
  • Page 51 Additonal playback features Enter the start time with the digit keys 0..9 from where playback should start. Confirm with OK . b The selected title is shorter than the time entered. Enter a new time or cancel the function by pressing SYSTEM-MENU . Playback starts at the time you entered.
  • Page 52 This feature plays back the first 10 seconds of each chapter (DVD) or track (CD). During playback, press PLAY MODE . Select ' MODE . After 10 seconds the DVD recorder switches to the next chapter/index. To start playback at the relevant chapter/index press STOP h and then PLAY G .
  • Page 53 Additonal playback features Confirm with OK . To stop the feature, press PLAY G and then SYSTEM-MENU . Many pre-recorded DVD discs have more than one audio language. The language initially selected for playback will be the one you selected when you first set up the DVD recorder. However you can change the audio language of the inserted disc at any time.

  • Page 54: Manual Recording

    With this DVD recorder, you can record on two types of DVD: This disc can be written to and then the contents deleted. This type of disc can only be recorded once. If you want to play this DVD in a DVD player it must be finalized using the ' function.
  • Page 55 Manual recording Switch on the TV set and select the programme number for the DVD recorder. Insert a disc on which the recording is to be made. This disc is then checked for content and system. b A DVD+RW disc has been inserted that already contains recordings. Use the CH+ A or CH- B button to select the point where the recording is to start.

  • Page 56: Changing To Another Title/Chapter

    During recording you can mark scenes so you can find them or hide them later. During recording, press FSS & at the start point. ' appears on the TV screen. In the display, the number of the 'CHAPTER' increases by one. For further information on titles and chapters, see the section on 'Changing to another title/chapter' in 'Playback'.
  • Page 57 Manual recording Insert a disc. If necessary, use the MONITOR button on the remote control to switch to the internal tuner in the DVD recorder. Use CH+ A or CH- B to select the programme number (channel name) you want to record. Press REC/OTR n on the remote control.
  • Page 58 The entire disc is now protected. If an attempt is made to record on a protected disc, ' ' will appear on the screen. On a recorded DVD+RW disc you can add another recording to an existing title. This recording is added to the title as a 'chapter'.
  • Page 59 Manual recording You can select the picture quality of the recording using the recording quality feature and hence the maximum recording time per disc. You can check the quality by changing the recording mode and then watching the picture from the built-in tuner ( MONITOR button).
  • Page 60 You can use this function if you own a satellite receiver that can control other devices via a scart cable and a programming function (timer). For more information, please see the operating instructions for the satellite receiver. Switch on the TV set. If required, select the programme number for the DVD recorder.
  • Page 61 Manual recording Can you record the right TV channel in seconds when the DVD recorder is switched off? No problem. If recording is started manually, the channel from the TV set via the scart cable. You will find more information on how to switch 'Direct record' on or off in the next section 'Direct record'.
  • Page 62 Switch on the TV set. If required, select the programme number for the DVD recorder. Press SYSTEM-MENU on the remote control. The menu bar appears. ' symbol with D or C . Select ' ' using CH- B or CH+ A and confirm with Select ' ' using CH- B or CH+ A .
  • Page 63 Managing the disc contents When a recording is made to disc, the following additional information is also stored at the beginning of the recording: •) Name of the recording If the TV station does not transmit a name, only the channel number and time will be stored as the name •) Length of the recording •) Record type (Quality)
  • Page 64 In this menu you can adapt a title to suit your particular needs. You can insert/delete chapter markers, hide chapters, select a new index, or split up a title. Press FSS & on the remote control during recording to open this menu. During recording, you can set or delete chapter markers within a title.
  • Page 65 Managing the disc contents Using C select ' '. The picture is shown darker. You can switch between show chapters (' ') quickly and easily using SELECT . To end, press FSS & . During playback this chapter will be skipped. If the chapter is not visible, select ' Within a title you can delete either all markers or individual markers.
  • Page 66 Normally the first picture of a recording is used as the index picture. You can however choose any picture from the recording as the index picture. During playback, search for location of the new index picture. Press the PAUSE 9 button. Press the FSS &...
  • Page 67 Managing the disc contents Some TV stations transmit the title (name) of a programme. In this case, the name will be included automatically (e.g. 'ROCKY'). Otherwise, the only the programme number (programme name) and the time are stored as the name of the recording. The name of the recording can only be changed after the recording has been completed.
  • Page 68 You can delete specific recordings from a disc. To do this, proceed as follows: Press the STOP h button or during playback press DISC-MENU . Using CH+ A or CH- B select the title you want to delete and confirm with C . The title editing menu will appear. ' using CH+ A or CH- B and confirm with Select ' OK .
  • Page 69 Managing the disc contents In the 'Disc info display' press C . The ' on the TV screen. ' using CH+ A or CH- B and confirm with C . Select ' Using C or D select the position where the letter/number/icon is to be changed/re-entered.
  • Page 70 This feature is required to play back a DVD+R disc in a DVD player. Once the disc has been finalised no further recordings or changes can be made. In the 'Disc info display' press C . The ' on the TV screen. ' using CH+ A or CH- B and confirm with Select ' OK .
  • Page 71 Programming a recording (TIMER) Use 'Programming a recording (TIMER)', to automatically start and stop a recording at a later date. The DVD recorder will switch to the right programme number and begin recording at the correct time. With this DVD recorder, you can pre-programme up to six recordings within a period of one month.
  • Page 72 Thanks to this programming system, you no longer need to tediously enter the date, programme number, start and end time. All the information needed by the DVD recorder for programming is contained in the PlusCode programming number. This 9-digit PlusCode number is found in most TV listings magazine.
  • Page 73 Programming a recording (TIMER) The decoded data appears after confirmation. You can go back and change the data. Select the appropriate input field with C or D . If required, make changes using CH+ A , CH- B or the number buttons 0..9 .
  • Page 74 In ' ' use SELECT to select from the following options: : Repeated daily recordings from Monday to Friday : Repeated weekly recordings (every week on the same day, e.g. Monday). You can also programme recordings from external sources via scart socket EXT 1 TO TV-I/O (' ') or EXT 2 AUX-I/O (' Select the '...
  • Page 75 Programming a recording (TIMER) Switch on the TV set. If required, select the programme number for the DVD recorder. Press TIMER on the remote control. The programming mode selected last is marked. ' using CH- B or CH+ A and confirm with C . Select ' Select the programmed recording (TIMER) you want to check, change or delete with CH- B or CH+ A .
  • Page 76 PROBLEM SOLUTION While a programmed recording is being made, you cannot operate your DVD recorder manually. If you want to cancel the programmed recording, press STANDBY m . The DVD recorder was switched on several minutes before the start of a programmed recording. Switch off the DVD recorder using STANDBY m .
  • Page 77 ï User preferences In this section you will learn how to set your user preferences on the DVD recorder. The symbols have the following meanings: Switch on the TV set. If required, select the programme number for the DVD recorder. SYSTEM-MENU on the remote control.
  • Page 78 Use this feature to adjust the position of the picture on your TV left or right using D , C to suit your TV set. By default the recorder is set to ' recorder. Depending on which audio outputs are used, you can select the settings in this menu. If you only use the analogue audio output ( OUT L AUDIO R ), select the settings ' ' menu.

  • Page 79: Subtitles

    You can choose the following settings in this menu: Playback audio language Audio recording Subtitle language Screen menu language You can select the following functions in this menu: Along with the on screen menu, the OSD (On Screen Display) also displays information on the current operating status (counter, playback, recording, TV channel, etc.) on the TV screen.
  • Page 80 : The DVD recorder responds to a DVD player remote control. The DVD recorder also responds to the remote control of a DVD player (remote control code RC-6). Choose this setting if your Philips TV remote supports DVD functions. : The DVD recorder only responds to the supplied remote control.
  • Page 81 In this menu you can make the changes that relate to the disc: Please read the next chapter on 'Access control (child lock)'. If playback of a pre-recorded DVD video disc or video CD is interrupted (button STOP h or OPEN/CLOSE J ) when the disc is reloaded (disc is started) playback starts at the precise location where it stopped.
  • Page 82 This feature enables discs to be locked for children. When Child Lock is on, a 4-digit code (PIN) needs to be entered before a disc can be played. You can also decide whether the inserted disc should always be played or should be played only once, despite the child lock •)' This disc is stored in a memory with space for 50 child-safe discs.
  • Page 83 Access control (Child Lock) Insert a disc. The access control box will appear after a short delay. Using CH+ A or CH- B select ' Enter your PIN code using the number buttons 0..9 . Double-sided DVDs may have a different ID for each side. For these discs, each side must be authorised.
  • Page 84 )' using CH- B or CH+ A and confirm Select ' with C . ' using C . Confirm ' Enter a 4-digit code of your choice. If the code is new, you may have to enter the code a second time as confirmation. ' using CH+ A or CH- B and confirm Select the ' with C .
  • Page 85 Access control (Child Lock) To end, press D and then SYSTEM-MENU . Switch on the TV set. If required, select the programme number for the DVD recorder. Switch on the DVD recorder using STANDBY/ON m . Press SYSTEM-MENU . The menu bar appears ' icon using D or C .
  • Page 86 PROBLEM If you have any problems using this DVD recorder, the reason may be one of the following. You can also call the The telephone numbers can be found on the back of this instruction manual. Have the model number (MODEL NO) and the production number (PROD.NO) of your recorder ready.

  • Page 87: Preventing Accidental Erasing Of Discs

    PROBLEM Before you call an engineer SOLUTION There is no recording on the disc: Change disc. You inserted the wrong disc type: Your recorder can play back the following disc types: DVD Video, (Super)Video CD, DVD+R(W), Audio CD, , MP3-CD's You inserted the disc the wrong way: Insert the disc with the label facing upwards Disc is dirty: Clean the disc Wrong region code: The region code of the DVD and the DVD recorder must match.

  • Page 88: Sound Settings

    PROBLEM SOLUTION The DVD recorder is connected to the 'Phono-input' of your amplifier: This socket is provided only for record players without a preamplifier. Select a different audio input. The TV system of the disc does not match that of your TV set (PAL/NTSC). The recording can be made in colour only when the TV channels or the connected additional device send a colour signal.
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